EP 2-20 NED LEDOUX
Wendy Corr:
Well, Hey folks, welcome to The Roundup. We are a Cowboy State Daily podcast, and we focus on the interesting people in the Cowboy State. And it's such an interesting place with so many interesting people and so many resources.
Real quickly, before we get started with our really, really great guest today, I want to make sure that people know about another great podcast called Business from the Basement. It's the Wyoming Business Alliance’s podcast. We want to make sure to let people know that these resources from the Business Alliance are out there for anybody who's in business in the cowboy state. Check out the Wyoming Business Alliance Business from the Basement podcast for wonderful information that'll help you with your Wyoming business.
But we're talking about Wyoming businesses, and the business that we're talking about today is show business, and show business is embodied in our guest, Ned Ledoux. Ned Ledoux, what a great, great thing to have Ned on our podcast today.
Ned, welcome to The Roundup. We're so glad to have you.
Ned Ledoux:
Well, thanks for having me.
Wendy Corr:
It's so fun to be able to talk to you. We were talking just beforehand, and Ned and I actually grew up in the same part of Wyoming. I'm from Buffalo, and Ned is from Kaycee, so I think they're the only two communities in Johnson County, if I recall correctly.
Ned Ledoux:
Yeah, yeah, I think you're right, yeah.
Wendy Corr:
I think most everybody knows somebody in common, which is a lot of fun. And Ned, you grew up in Kaycee. You grew up, of course, in the, can I say the shadow of the spotlight, because your dad was in the spotlight, and you were just on the edge of that. And then eventually you joined him. And I absolutely love that.
Ned, tell us about growing up in Wyoming. What was it like for you, growing up in such unique, your feet really, in two worlds.
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Yeah, I just love the state of Wyoming. Very proud to have grown up there and to grow up on a ranch. Means a lot to me. You know, because just growing up a ranch kid, you learn so many things out there, you know, work ethic and just, you know, a working ranch, you learn how to work cows and build fence and haying and irrigating and all that stuff.
And working side by side with my siblings was great. And of course, when you're a kid, you know that kind of work is something that you might not really want to do because it's pretty tough stuff. But, you know, looking back on it now I'm, I'm sure thankful that I got to do that.
Wendy Corr:
And yet, you also had a glimpse into the show business world, into the music industry world. What was it like to kind of be able to see both of those different life experiences?
Ned Ledoux:
Well, if you're talking about Dad, you know, like one thing I always say is, you know, if you're a rodeo fan, Chris Ledoux is the 1976 bareback champ of the world. If you're a country music fan, you know, Chris Ledoux is, in my opinion, the greatest entertainer that there ever was, and has some of the best music. But if you're me or any of my siblings, you just simply know him as dad, you know, he never really brought that stuff home.
And I've talked about all the people that he played for, and, you know, all the big shows that he did and all that stuff - that was like, he wanted to get involved with what we were doing, you know, whether it was a sport that we were into or or homework. But then once he got into playing the game of golf, you know, he was like, Hey, you guys want to go play some golf? So he's the reason why I got into playing golf.
But yeah, you know, it was cool to see his shows. You know, we got to go see, you know, a few of his shows, you know, growing up, but yeah, I mean, there's, there's never going to be another one like him, that's for sure.
Wendy Corr:
There never is. His Western Underground album is just one of my favorites. I mean, I think I wore that tape out when I was in college. Cadillac Ranch, obviously This Cowboy's Hat, great, great songs, iconic songs.
And Ned, now you have picked up the mantle of the, the legend, the persona that was Chris Ledoux, and you've taken that and you've keeping that alive in your music - and tell us a little bit about that.
Ned Ledoux:
Yeah. Well, you know, singing was never even an idea for me up until, I don't know, a little over 10 years ago, because all I ever wanted to do is play drums. And I got a set of drums when I was, I don’t know, five years old or something like that.
And once I was able to play along to songs on the radio, or maybe some of my favorite cassette tapes at the time, it might sound weird for a kid who was just, you know, that young, to see his path out in front of him, like, this is what I'm going to do.
And so I ended up joining my first band, and I was probably 14, and played in a lot of really good bands, including my dad's band. But yeah, singing was never, like I said, wasn't even a thought. It didn't exist for me until Dad passed away in ‘05.
And I joined up with a different band and we were playing somewhere in Nebraska, and we played a Friday and a Saturday night, and after the Friday night show, we all went back to the hotel, and we're hanging out, and got some friends over.
And the lead singer of the band, Dustin Evans, had his acoustic out and was playing, and he got up to go get a beer or something, and handed me the guitar and said, Hey, man, would you play one of your dad's songs?
And I said, Well, I'll hold the guitar for you, but I don't sing. I'll just wait for you to get back. And so he comes back, and he's like, Well, do you know he rattled off, like, two or three different songs? I said, Yeah, I know the words to most all of his songs, but I don't sing. I've never even tried it.
But I just remember driving home that Sunday, and, I mean, I had a lot of time to think, because we were in Lincoln, Nebraska, and I was driving back to Kaycee, Wyoming, and I got to thinking, how fun that might be, just to learn two or three songs to sing, and I've been playing guitar for a number of years, but I never tried it.
So once I got home, I picked out one of Dad's songs. It was, ‘I've got to be a rodeo man,’ a really old song he wrote years ago when he was still rodeoing, and it took me the better part of the day to to learn it and to be able to play through it without too many mistakes.
But it all started off really as a hobby. You know, it was something I just kind of did in the basement or in the garage. You know, I didn't dare sing in front of anybody, except for the chair in the corner and the pictures on the wall. But eventually I kind of cracked out and, you know, started getting up on stage, or, you know, we'd have family gatherings. And I might, he might ask me to play a couple of songs or something, but that's really kind of how it got started.
Wendy Corr:
And at what point did somebody say, oh my gosh, you sound like your dad. Because, and I tell you, I can hear - your voice is distinct. Your voice is distinct from your dad's - but I hear notes, I hear tones of your dad in some of the ways, the inflections and things like that in some of your songs. When did people come up and say, Wow, you sound like your dad?
Ned Ledoux:
Pretty much right from the start. But it's not something that I worked on really, you know? I mean, of course, I tried to get better and better and, I mean, I'm sure those first couple of years that I started singing in front of people, it was probably pretty rough.
But it's probably the best compliment I could get, though, is when somebody tells me, I sound like dad, and it's like, well, thanks. That's just what comes out.
Wendy Corr:
Well, it's genetic too. It is. You were able to capture that and bring that to a bigger audience this last year with the release of the single ‘One hand in the Riggin’.’ And what a great song. And it put the two of you together in a way that - I mean, you think, Nat King Cole and Natalie Cole did it in the 80s, I think it was, and here you are. You're able to do the same thing and do a duet with your dad.
Tell us how that single came about, because I think that's a fabulous story.
Ned Ledoux:
Yes, it's pretty neat how it all happened. So the guy who wrote the song, his name is Brenn Hill, and he's out of Utah, and now we're talking like 22 years ago, I think. And so he had just written this song, ‘One hand in the rigging.’ And he was a big fan of dad’s, and still is, of course.
But he'd asked dad if he'd like to sing on this song with him. And so dad took a listen to it, and it's like, yeah, I like that. And so dad went to a studio for the very last time and recorded his vocal track for this song.
But the part of the story that gets a little cloudy for me, I don't know all the details, but for unforeseen circumstances, Dad's vocal track never made the cut, you know. So, again, I don't know the reason behind it, but it more or less kind of sat on the shelf. I mean, the song was released on Brenn’s album, but dad's vocal never made it.
But I got to be friends with Brenn over the years. Yeah, great guy, you know, great singer songwriter. And we'd always catch up in Elko, Nevada for the National Cowboy Poetry Gathering. And I had known about this song years ago when, of course, I was just playing drums, I wasn't singing or doing anything like this.
But the last time I saw him was, I guess, about a year and a half ago. And he said, You know, I think maybe the timing wasn't right back then, and the Lord has a plan for everything. I said, Yeah, I know. And he said, I think what his plan is is for this to be a duet with you and your dad now, so we're on the same page. I said, Man, that would be cool, wouldn't it?
And he said, The only deal was when they recorded it. They recorded it on what they called radar, which is kind of over my head. It was just a different process of recording. And, well, they don't make these radar machines anymore, and so we had to figure out a way to transfer it from this thing to this other thing.
And I said, Well, let me get a hold of my producer, Mac McAnally, I said he probably has something under his bed or in his kitchen cupboard that would make this work. And so anyway, everything worked out fine.
And so I was in the studio recording the album, and you know, we did a whole new mix on the song, new drums, bass, guitars. And then I went in and laid down my vocal track. But then I had to get back home because we had some shows to play.
But then, in the meantime, Mac got dad's vocal from Brenn and plugged it into the mix and, man, it just sounds so good. It's just neat to hear, you know, my voice singing along with dad. But I asked Mac before we recorded it, I said, Man, I wonder how many people are going to be able to tell the difference? He said, Yeah, I think it's going to be pretty close, but, but it's just cool.
Wendy Corr:
It really is. It's really a miracle of technology to be able to put the two of you because, like, you say, back then you weren't singing, you were playing the drums, and that was pretty much it. So to be able to put your now more mature voice in with your dad's is really a gift for his fans and for yours, and for those of us in Wyoming who really feel like you're part of our Wyoming family.And that's fantastic.
You lost your dad in 2005 and that has been something that, it's not often that somebody loses their parent and the whole world grieves with them. But you had that. What was it like for you to go on with your music, knowing that the person who trained you, who inspired you, who got you up on that stage for the first time - with him. I mean, I know that you played in a band before that - but to get up there with him, how did that affect your career and your trajectory when your dad passed?
Ned Ledoux:
Well, I know he would probably just say, just get back out there, you know. And that's what I needed to do. I gotta give a big thanks to Dustin Evans and the Good Times band, because it was like two weeks after dad passed, Dustin called me up and said, man, and he had lost his dad, just a few years prior. And he said, The job's yours if you want it. He said, I'd love for you to come out play drums for us.
I said, Well, when's the next gig? Because I need to get out there and get after it. But, I know dad, you know, he would just say, keep doing what you're doing. So that's what I'm doing.
Wendy Corr:
It is. And you've had more than your share of tragedy, and I want to talk about this new album that you've got. It's called Safe Haven. It was just released at the beginning of April, correct?
Ned Ledoux:
Yeah, April 4, yep.
Wendy Corr:
So this new album that you got called Safe Haven, and for people who know you and who have followed your career, or who are personal friends, they know that this album is named for your daughter.
Ned Ledoux:
Yeah, I came up with this title. First of all, it's hard to come up with the album title. Sometimes you'll have, like, in a list of songs that are going to be on the album, there might be a song that kind of stands out from the rest that would make for a good album title. But on this one, there wasn't really anything that really jumped off the list.
And so I just took out a sheet of paper and a pen and just started writing down all kinds of stuff. You know, whatever came to mind, I had 10 to 15 different decent ideas. But then down in my basement, I got this picture of me and my daughter on the wall. We’re hanging out on the front porch and I think, I don't think she was even one yet at the time.
And I just wrote her name down, Haven Jo. And I added it to this list, and I sent it to my little brother, Will. He's a great guy to throw ideas like this back and forth. And I said, Does anything jump off of this list that would make for a good album title? He said, Well, I like Haven Jo. I said, Yeah, I do too.
But I kind of gave it a rest for about three or four days, and got to thinking about it. And ‘Safe Haven’ just kind of showed up in my head. And I was texting back, so what do you think about ‘Safe Haven?’ He goes, Man, that's perfect. And so yeah, it's like in dedication to the memory of my daughter.
There's an instrumental track on here, and I always wanted to put an instrumental track, even though it's like a minute and a half long, because I've got albums, you know, that I've got back in the 80s or 90s, and there might be, like a little instrumental to kind of introduce, like the next song.
But this instrumental came to me, like, a week or so after my daughter had passed away. And I was down in my basement. I took my guitar off the wall, and it was, it's just a comforting thing that would be kind of like, my safe haven is playing music. And so I wasn't planning on coming up with anything. I just wanted to play.
And all of a sudden, this lullaby kind of showed itself. And I was like, oh, hi Haven, there you are. And it was like she was kind of channeling herself through me, and this thing just kind of showed up. And so the name of the track is called Haven’s Lullaby.
And to tell you the truth, I didn't even have a title for this thing until we were in the studio, and my producer said, so what are you going to name this? I said, I don't know. And then it just, I said, Give me a day. I'll think of something. And I just dreamt up, Haven's Lullaby. And so, so yeah, it's a pretty powerful little - and I tried to put a lyric to it, but there'd be no way I'd be able to sing it, you know, but yeah, I think it turned out good.
Wendy Corr:
It's an incredibly beautiful piece. Like you say, it's about a minute and a half long, and I listened to it today, and it absolutely is haunting, but so beautiful. That's something that I noticed about this entire album, though, is you go literally from your ranching background and from the things that you have grown up with, and the ranch life that you knew, and you go from the earth to the sky.
There's a song that you've got there called ‘Real As I Believe,’ that absolutely brought me to tears. And that song is just as moving and haunting as ‘Haven's Lullaby.’ Tell us about ‘Real As I Believe.’
Ned Ledoux:
Well, what you just said, from the earth to the sky might be for a good album title.
Wendy Corr:
There you go. Okay. I'm glad I can help you with that!
Ned Ledoux:
Well, ‘Real As I Believe,’ was sent to me from an outside writer, and it was sent to me like, I don't know, over three years ago, and I was working on songs from my last album, ‘Buckskin,’ and how I overlooked this one back then, I don't know. But maybe, like I said earlier about ‘One Hand in the Rigging,’ maybe the timing wasn't right, for dad to sing on Brenn’s album.
But yeah, I dug up this old email that said, ‘Real As I Believe,’ and I pushed play, and I got about a third of the way through it, and I got that lump in my throat that punched you in the gut. You know, I was like, man, if this song hits me like this in an emotional way, there's something about it.
And so I sent it to my manager. I said, I think I found another song for the album. And he said, Well, if it, if it hits you in that sort of way. Then he said, I can only imagine the effect it might have on other people. But I changed up a little bit of the song lyrically. You know, I put my daughter in there. I think the original had something about grandpa.
But we actually recorded it two different ways. Like the first way had a full production behind it with like, drums and bass and guitars, but then we, as you might say, we kind of churched it up, you know, on the second way, and that's what we ended up putting on the album. And just hear that piano come in. And, I mean, it's just, it's heavenly, it's, it's probably the most spiritual song that I've ever recorded.
And I do play it live. I didn't think I'd be able to, but, but I played through it, or I did play through it in my basement, you know, a couple dozen times, you know, just to kind of prepare myself, but yeah, it's definitely, probably the most powerful song on this album.
Wendy Corr:
It is an absolutely powerful song. But there's some other really fun songs too. It's got that typical, it's got your Ned Ledoux sound, which is just really fun. Is this your third studio album?
Ned Ledoux:
This is number four.
Wendy Corr:
This is fourth. Okay, this is your fourth studio album. Where do you record? Where do you record out of?
Ned Ledoux:
I go to Nashville to record. That's where my producer, Mac McAnally lives and, yeah, when I get ready to go back in the studio, I spend a lot of time here in the garage or in the basement or writing the stuff, but then I'll get a hold of Mac and just kind of send him what I've been working on. And he says, Well, I think you're ready to come into the studio.
So he'll book a studio, and he'll bring in all the session players, and I'm such a lucky guy to be able to work with not only Mac but all these guys that play on the album. I mean, they're just A-list top shelf session players, and I'm just very lucky to have them play on my stuff.
Wendy Corr:
How awesome is that? But you've got your road crew, you've got your touring band, and you guys live on the road. My gosh, I looked at your tour schedule coming up, and you are booked. Tell us about what you've got coming up.
Ned Ledoux:
Um, I think the next shows we have are Deadwood, and then we got a day off, and then we gotta be in Libby, Montana. After that, it's going to get kind of blurry, because, yeah, we're kind of going everywhere, when the Northwest and the southeast, southwest and and all through the middle of the state. And I don't have the calendar in front of me, but I know it's starting to really fill up.
Wendy Corr:
I just got as far as August, I'm like, holy cow, you are just everywhere. You are at Frontier Days, right?
Ned Ledoux:
I think so, yeah.
Wendy Corr:
I thought that you were in Frontier Days. So hopefully we're right on that, so I'll double check that. I'm sure you are. And then you've got, obviously sprinkled in there, you spend time with your wife there in Kansas. And so tell us about what got you to move to Kansas.
Ned Ledoux:
Well, her. For the most part, when we first were dating and got married, you know, we lived in Wyoming. We lived in Kaycee, in this cabin that my folks built back in the ‘70s. And I guess I lived there until I was one, and then we moved out to the ranch.
But, yeah, we moved into the cabin. Lived there for about five years, but she's got an identical twin sister, and I learned that you can't put a long distance relationship between twins. So she started kind of getting homesick later on. But my mom asked me once, she goes, You think you'd ever move to Kansas? I said, Maybe, yeah. And so the house that we're living in is the house that she grew up in. Her folks divorced, you know, a number of years ago, and so her mom was going to sell the place, and we were down here just hanging out visiting, and I said, Well, how about we buy it? And so immediately they both started crying.
But yeah, we love it down here. We've been here for, I don't know, 13 years. And yeah, we have a nice little sanctuary. It's real quiet where we are.
Wendy Corr:
Kansas can be a quiet place.
Ned Ledoux:
That's true. So can Wyoming.
Wendy Corr:
I can relate. Do you get back to Wyoming often? And where are your siblings? Where's everybody at now?
Ned Ledoux:
The rest of the family is all still in Wyoming. They're kind of scattered between Kaycee and Big Horn and Sheridan. But we get up there for Thanksgiving every year, we always go up there, and we always get a Christmas tree in the Bighorns, and we haul it all the way back to northeast Kansas. So, yeah, we get a lot of funny looks as we're driving along I-70, but it's a tradition, and that's what we've been doing ever since I was old enough to walk, wander through the snow in the Bighorns.
And, I mean, really, like the real life Griswold family, we really are. We just pack up a couple of coolers full of baloney and cheese and hot tomato juice, and, yeah, I get three or four truckloads of trees, but it's fun. And then in the summertime, you know, we'll swing through Kaycee or the area, you know, really kind of unexpectedly, I didn't really plan on it. But hey, we get stopped here and go see mom and the rest of them. And go, maybe go play a round of golf or something like that.
But, yeah, we get up there more than I thought we would.
Wendy Corr:
That's fantastic. So you're still called to Wyoming. You still find your anchor there.
Ned Ledoux:
Oh, for sure. And in my basement, I’ve got Wyoming Cowboy stuff all over the place, a helmet. But somebody asked me, they're like, So are you a K State fan or a KU fan? I said, I'm a Wyoming cowboy - that's stuck in the middle. I said, you guys can bicker back and forth. I know you got both, but Wyoming cowboys is all we have in the state of Wyoming. So, yeah, I fly the flag high.
Wendy Corr:
That's fantastic. I love that. That's so great. Ned, what's next? I know that you're going to be on tour. I know you've got so many things in that immediate tour, but when you get a chance to just do you, what are the things that you've got coming up next? The projects that you work on, and the things that really call to you.
Ned Ledoux:
Oh, well, I really enjoyed doing some carpentry work. I recently just redid our deck. It was getting pretty beat up and weathered, so I just put some new boards down on that, and I think now I'm just going to take a little bit of time off because my hands are sore from running the drill and hammering.
So there's always a project. You know, when you're a homeowner, you're never done. There's something that you're going to want to fix or replace or or whatever. But, yeah, I always have something to do.
Wendy Corr:
So in between gigs, you're at home, working, doing home, doing honey-do things.
Ned Ledoux:
Oh, it's just what I like to do. I mean, I'll do whatever she needs. But I can't sit on the couch all day. I gotta go out and do something.
Wendy Corr:
That's fantastic. I love that. So Ned, tell us then about your next studio time. Do you already have - I mean, this album just came out, but are you already working on material for the next?
Ned Ledoux:
Not really. I guess I should probably try to write a little bit more. But usually I spend so much time, it takes me a long time to write a song. You know, I take a lot of notes. That's kind of where it starts. You know, somebody might say something in a way, or phrase something in a way that I've never heard put that way before. So I'll write a little note down.
Or I might be outside running a chainsaw or mowing, and have all this noise going on, and a melody will show itself. So I'll shut everything down and sing that melody in my phone, but I'll put the phone away and get back to what I was doing.
But yeah, once I go in the studio and we record everything, I'm just kind of like, Okay, all done, you know? And then kind of give the songwriting a break for a while, because I need to be inspired. I know there's some songwriters that probably have, like, a set schedule where it's like, Okay, two o'clock on Wednesdays and Fridays. That's songwriting time. Well, good for you, but I don't work that way.
I mean, I got a lot of other things I enjoy doing and responsibility, priorities, you know. And not to say that songwriting is, like, on the back burner or anything like that, but when I release a brand new album, and it's not even a month old yet, it's like, I'm going to give it time to learn how to fly, you know, let people take a listen to it.
But, yeah, I already have a few notes written down somewhere for some new stuff, which is way ahead, further than I was after my last album. So I'll get to work on it.
Wendy Corr:
What is your favorite? I know this has been a really emotional album for you to put together, and it's got some beautiful, spiritual songs on it, and a lot of nods to your dad and to your daughter. But is there a song on this album that really fires you up? I mean, what's your favorite ‘let it rock’ song on this?
Because that's what your dad was famous for, too, is those great rocking songs and those great country songs that just brought people to their feet. What's your favorite, just ‘let it rock’ song on this album?
Ned Ledoux:
Probably ‘Boys Growing Up,’ I think it's the opening track. And again, it's a song that was sent to me from an outside writer, but the version that was sent to me was just a demo. It was just a vocal acoustic track, no big production behind it.
And when I first listened to it, it reminded me of me and my brothers growing up and out on the ranch and bickering back and forth with each other. And, you know, breaking stuff, learning how to fix it. And, yeah, I mean, even though we're grown up and got kids of our own now, it just seems like every time we get back together, we reminisce about the old days.
But it's a fun, really fun song to play live, and it's probably my favorite song, you know, right now that we're playing live. But I was talking to Mac McAnally, my producer, and I said, Yeah, I'd like for this to kind of have like a Tom Petty/Sheryl Crow type of groove to it. You know, nothing too complicated, just a good groove.
And I think we accomplished that. So yeah, ‘Boys Growing Up,’ it might be my favorite one to be playing live right now.
Wendy Corr:
Right now - but you have other songs that you play every concert. And what's your most requested song?
Ned Ledoux:
Well, I never I thought I'd get to this point where I'd have four albums out and, boy, I don't know - of my own songs, I mean, ‘Brother Highway’ is kind of a favorite. That was, like one of my first songs I ever wrote by myself for every cowboy. But then, you know, we always throw some of Dad's songs in the mix in the set, you know?
I mean, even though, like I said, I’ve got four albums of my own, and I could fill a 90 minute set with nothing but my stuff, I would never do that. I mean, you're going to hear some of Dad's songs, whether you want to or not, because we love to play him.
And so the one song of his that we will always do is ‘This Cowboy’s Hat.’ We love playing that song and the crowd knows it. I mean, I could probably step away from the mic and they could just sing it, you know. But, yeah, that's, that's definitely a staple.
Wendy Corr:
‘Long before you take this cowboy’s hat.’ it's a great song, absolutely. And I think it's almost iconic for Wyoming. I think Wyoming has claimed that song as well.
Ned Ledoux:
Well, in the end, you know, he says ‘big old Texas grin.’ Well, shoot, 10 years ago I changed it to ‘big Wyoming grin.’ So that's what you're going to hear me say, unless we're in Texas.
Wendy Corr:
Well, yes, unless you're in Texas, then people in Texas will expect that. Ned, this has been such a great conversation and a great opportunity for people who have not either heard you play, or haven't had a chance to really get to know your story - not just the fact that you are Chris Ledoux’s son, but that you're Ned Ledoux, that you have your own band, you've got your own style, you've got your own identity as a songwriter and as a performer.
And so we're so glad to get this chance to get to know you, and to be able to to look forward to the next music that's coming out. ‘Safe Haven’ is available anywhere, right? I found it on Spotify, and you can get it on Amazon. Where can you get it?
Ned Ledoux
Yeah, anywhere you download or stream your music, I've always, I'm still a big fan of the CD, you know, a physical product, because you can - just everything about it. I mean, just reminds me when I was a kid going to Casper, you know, when there was still record store, music stores.
And, yeah, you just take the shrink wrap off, you open it up, and the smell of it, the booklet with the liner notes and and the lyric sheets, and, yes, and some of them might come with a poster. I just recently got the Black Crowes new album. And, I mean, I'm just looking through it, it's got a poster in there. And, and the CD sounds way better. You know? I mean, you can listen to stuff on your phone, that's fine, but if you want a good sound quality, it's CD.
Wendy Corr:
Bless you for promoting that. I think that's great, because I still have all my CDs, and I'm trying to figure out why I held on to them. That's the reason. Thank you.
Ned Ledoux:
Yeah, and we do the vinyl thing as well. I know vinyl is still selling good, so we'll, we'll keep on printing it out on that too, but, but yeah, and we always pack the CDs. They're always available at the merch table at the shows too. So if you come and see a show, there's all the stuff that you need there, too.
Wendy Corr:
Excellent! Ned, this has been so fun. Thank you so much for spending some time with us today, and good luck with your upcoming tour. And like you say, it's kind of all a blur, and you've got a lot of places to go, but we look forward to seeing you here this summer, as you're out there bringing your music to the world. Thank you.
Ned Ledoux:
Well, thank you. Yeah, that was fun.
Wendy Corr:
Folks, thank you for tuning in to The Roundup. Thank you for tuning in to this fantastic conversation with Ned Ledoux, who's carrying on the family tradition of bringing that great Wyoming/ rodeo/ cowboy culture to the rest of the world. So we're so glad to have him here on The Roundup with us. Folks, have a great week. Ned, thank you so much. Good luck with your tour this summer.
Ned Ledoux:
Well, thank you.
Wendy Corr:
Folks, have a great week.
